Has TorGuard considered a Warrant Canary?

[lva 0]

Being TorGuard is located in the United States, they are open to potential monitoring of traffic by way of a warrant. I would feel much better being able to check a daily Warrant Canary document to verify TorGuard has not been compromised. I'm not sure how much work actually goes into uploading and maintaining a warrant canary, but with the size and customer base of TorGuard, it should be a no brainer.

I spoke with someone via chat a bit ago and their responses were a bit scary and simply that "TorGuard does not log and it's not possible for authorities to monitor traffic". That's completely and utterly incorrect. With a proper warrant, they can monitor without any third party consent. In short, they can require TorGuard to begin logging without customer knowledge.

I've searched and haven't seen anything regarding a Warrant Canary. If there is one already, please point me in that direction. However, as I said, being a VPN in the United States, I beg of you to begin the process.

Here is an article regarding why VPN's should have a Warrant Canary, published by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

[klepp0906 1]

On 3/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, lva said:

Being TorGuard is located in the United States, they are open to potential monitoring of traffic by way of a warrant. I would feel much better being able to check a daily Warrant Canary document to verify TorGuard has not been compromised. I'm not sure how much work actually goes into uploading and maintaining a warrant canary, but with the size and customer base of TorGuard, it should be a no brainer.

I spoke with someone via chat a bit ago and their responses were a bit scary and simply that "TorGuard does not log and it's not possible for authorities to monitor traffic". That's completely and utterly incorrect. With a proper warrant, they can monitor without any third party consent. In short, they can require TorGuard to begin logging without customer knowledge.

I've searched and haven't seen anything regarding a Warrant Canary. If there is one already, please point me in that direction. However, as I said, being a VPN in the United States, I beg of you to begin the process.

Here is an article regarding why VPN's should have a Warrant Canary, published by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

I always wondered about this myself.  Without some further protection, or them moving out of the US - one could argue we're potentially paying for nothing. 

[Radd 0]

this actually seems like an important issue, therefore this thread shouldn't just die off ....   an official comment from TG would be appreciated ....  all the VPN in the world ain't gonna save ya when the law come a knockin, but a little bit of prevention will

[balexter 4]

bump.

common TG devs/staff, make a statement and answer this important question!

[Poofy 0]

this is an actual important issue.

does TorGuard has Warrant Canary ?

[Poofy 0]

and i've just saw this link :

https://thebestvpn.com/

which is saying that TorGuard is with 5 eyes jurisdiction sharing data .

which will anonymously share users data with (United States, United Kingdom, Australia,Canada, and New Zealand)

🙄😐😡

[balexter 4]

I second the OP! A canary should have been installed long ago.

Taking the location TG is operating from and its huge user base this should be a no brainer.

Please make the canary happen.

[107787_1511348140 0]

another vote for the canary!

this is core to TG's value proposition, so also think this request is a no-brainer.

[JoPe 0]

I'd also like an official response. 

A canary would be a logical move now. 

[Marco 1]

Can any TG official rep comment on this? Will you consider this or if not, why so?

[Parsley 0]

I agree as well, such an issue is really important. As much as i enjoy using torguard, I'm sure privacy takes a higher priority. 

[molitar 0]

Yeah would like to know all this time why there is no word.  I know many of us are getting concerned that they are in the 5EYES then the lack of a Warrant Canary to help protect us does not help.

[Ted 0]

Seems like their lack of reply is reply enough?
Account is coming up for renewal so time to go shopping!

[RyDze 4]

I admit it is becoming curious that this question is being avoided for 7 months now... i think you are correct that obviously they are ignoring this topic purposely which is curious..... It is a simple question , but to completely ignore the question for 7 months even after it has been bumped to the top like 13 times clearly indicates that this is a topic they do not wish to answer which is starting to look suspicious.

[Support 158]

Hello everyone

We hadn't seen this thread, we do not believe in a warrant canary here at TG - there are no logs on any TG servers, we have started migrating to volatile RAM-based servers but in any case your data does not hit our HD's in the first place, this migration, of course, will take some time but we have started the process - there is no identifying info that can be collected, regardless of the amount of force applied with TG.

Regards

[RyDze 4]

Thank you @Support for your Reply, The Warrant Canary does indeed seem like it would be a waste of time and resources. Like you say if there are No Logs of any kind and everything is anonymous then there is simply no point in it, I have tried alot of different vpn's but in my opinion Torguard is my absolute Favorite. Thank you for your Kind and informative Response.

[Support 158]

16 hours ago, RyDze said:

Thank you @Support for your Reply, The Warrant Canary does indeed seem like it would be a waste of time and resources. Like you say if there are No Logs of any kind and everything is anonymous then there is simply no point in it, I have tried alot of different vpn's but in my opinion Torguard is my absolute Favorite. Thank you for your Kind and informative Response.

 

You are welcome